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Postby thunderjet » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:24 pm

Soon it will be spring and I'm going to start some "mad" engine bay detailing on the Mark VII. I was wondering what the factory colors of the upper intake manifold and valve covers were? I know on Fox Thunderbirds the lower intake was plain cast aluminum and the upper was painted silver. I've sen some later (90+) 5.0 Mustangs with a gray painted upper intake from the factory. I was wondering if a 91 Mark VII would have a silver painted upper intake or a gray one? Also what color were the factory "HO" cast aluminum valve covers painted? They look to be a shade of gray. Does anyone know of a paint that matches the color they are supposed to be? Is Ford engine gray correct?
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby CDW6212R » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:03 am

I think the HO covers are a slightly lighter shade of gray than the engine paint. The intakes may be the same as those, at least close.

Are you considering any aftermarket valve covers? i just saw a Ford set I didn't know they made, a guy in Australia put them on his 351W Land Rover project. I like them because they resemble the 351 Cleveland VC's, they are shaped so that one surface is horizontal(a drink would set on it). They have an molded in script, with BOSS and Ford Racing on them. The only down side is they have old school holes, each has a hole and are intended for a PCV grommet and fill cap to be used. I may get those if I get a better look and think they'd look right on one of my engines.

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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby artbaileyjr » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:33 am

OEM valve cover color. (Ref: 1990 - Original factory paint)

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I've seen three iterations of upper intake color. One is a raw, unpainted aluminum. (1986 lopo - Black, stamped steel valve covers)

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Raw aluminum color painted 1987-1991 (ish)

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And a painted kinda' a tan/bronze(ish) color. This one is on a 1991.

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And just for the record, when I rebuild 'um I like 'um either satin black (recent Chevy BB)...

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... Or all grey satin for Fords. I don't like "bling", I just like a clean, stock look. I use Quart canned Rustolium sprayed through a detail cup gun after assembly of the long block. It holds forever and has a "down to business" look. It's what's inside the engine that that matters to me.

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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby thunderjet » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:50 pm

Those BOSS 302 style covers look nice but I know for a fact they won't fit under longer runner EFI intakes, which is kind of a bummer. A buddy and I tried them on his car. He needed 2 spacers on the upper to lower to clear them, but then his hood wouldn't shut :lol: .

I was going to run the stock HO valve covers on the Mark. I like the way they look. I'm thinking I'll end up painting them Ford gray. The upper intake I'm not so sure. I think the Ford gray color would be correct, but silver might work as well. I do have a spare GT40 upper kicking around so if I can find a GT40 lower I might swap them on. I have to remove the HO intake to clean and paint it anyway. I would probably paint the lower silver and the upper Ford gray.

I went with Ford blue everything (oil pan, block, heads (yes even though they are aluminum), intake) on the engine in my Thunderbird. The only thing that isn't Ford blue are the valve covers, which are FRPP ribbed COBRA covers. I was going for a 60's 289 Cobra engine vibe, albeit with EFI. The rest of the underhood is stock appearing except for the engine. With the Mark I'm going for a stock look, which is why I'm a bit torn on replacing the HO intake with a GT40 one. The stock HO intake just looks cool to me.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby CDW6212R » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:27 pm

I lean to the OEM or subtle colors, and the HO covers look fine bare usually. The Explorer upper intake is one of the best looking OEM intakes there is.

I had the one for my 347 powder coated, I asked for a lighter gray but ended up with what looks nearly chrome. I'll live with it until I get to adding an intercooler intake and a turbo.

So the Boss valve covers are tall enough, but too tall for most mild/stock setups. That's not good.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby thunderjet » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:20 pm

While I'm all for Ford gray or black on an engine I do like Ford blue as well. I don't think it's too gaudy as Ford used it from the factory from the 60's till the early 80's :) .
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The key to using a bright color like Ford blue is to keep the rest of the engine bay toned down. It would look gaudy with chrome dress up stuff everywhere. The black ribbed valve covers break up the blue as well.

As for the Mark I think I'm going to go with Ford gray on the valve covers and intake manifold. It'll give it more of a stock look. I may go to the junk yard tomorrow and see if I can find a GT40 lower.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby Sir Tonk » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:24 pm

I'm definitely a fan of the stock gray with the EFI cars, but the classics just look bizarre if they're not one of Ford's blues.

My '70 Galaxie has the darker blue and I just got around to repainting the air cleaner. I like this shade more than the lighter one, but it kinda depends on the color of the car as well.

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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby CDW6212R » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:32 pm

That is the good Ford blue, I like that one the best of the three shades of blue.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby artbaileyjr » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:44 pm

Agreed!
That's a good look for early ford engines.

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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby thunderjet » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:03 pm

Well two hours of my time and $100 later at the local pick and pull got me an internal Explorer/GT40 upper and lower intake and factory HO aluminum valve covers. I'm going to paint the lower silver, the upper Ford gray, and the valve covers Ford gray. That should give an approximation of stock plus not make the GT40 intake as noticeable. I didn't grab the GT40 heads off the Explorer as they aren't worth it. I had the engine half apart but I figured by the time I had the GT40 heads cleaned, had a valve job done, and replaced the valve springs, retainers, and keepers to work with the HO cam I'd have too much money in them. The heads would have been $120 but then I'd be looking at $400-500 in rebuilding them. I kinda wish I would have kept the GT40Ps I pulled off my Thunderbird to swap on the Edelbrock Performers. They had good springs and only 7000 miles. It would have worked great with speed density too. Oh well :roll: .
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby CDW6212R » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:27 pm

Well done, I have only seen one 302 Explorer here that even had an engine left, and the intake was gone. What did the intake set cost, I've never asked them?

The GT40 heads are great for a small step or rebuild, or temporary until something happens later. I'm hoping to succeed in fitting my KB blower under the hood of my Mercury. If I manage to do that, then I'll need a stronger engine, the forged pistons of my 91 Lincoln engine. I'll install GT40 heads on that, my friend has a 95 Cobra engine that he got in trade long ago. They are decent heads, but only if you don't invest too much in them, as you said.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby thunderjet » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:14 pm

CDW6212R wrote:Well done, I have only seen one 302 Explorer here that even had an engine left, and the intake was gone. What did the intake set cost, I've never asked them?

The GT40 heads are great for a small step or rebuild, or temporary until something happens later. I'm hoping to succeed in fitting my KB blower under the hood of my Mercury. If I manage to do that, then I'll need a stronger engine, the forged pistons of my 91 Lincoln engine. I'll install GT40 heads on that, my friend has a 95 Cobra engine that he got in trade long ago. They are decent heads, but only if you don't invest too much in them, as you said.


I got the intake (upper and lower) and the valve covers for a little over $100. The upper and lower were about $40 each, much cheaper than eBay. I'm going to throw the GT40 on with the 65mm Edelbrock TB I pulled off the Thunderbird (it's got a 70mm Edelbrock now, which I got almost new for less than $80). That should maybe add about 20hp to the Mark.

I ran the GT40Ps on my Thunderbird because I got them cheap. I paid $200 for a brand new NOS pair. I just added FRPP A50 springs and retainers for $150. I had about $350 in the heads, something I doubt is possible with junk yard heads that need a rebuild.

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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby White Lincoln » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:22 pm

thunderjet wrote: something I doubt is possible with junk yard heads that need a rebuild.

There are those that beg to differ...
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby CDW6212R » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:07 pm

Thanks, and we need to save as many of those as we can.

Oh, did you by chance notice if the wiring was still there, and unhurt?

The early Explorer 302 computer and wiring harness are the best swap parts to start with, for OBDII projects. Get those any time you can. That's the versions without the EGR pipe in the header, the internal EGR, with a flat topped EGR intake elbow. I have one set of those, and they are going into my Mark VII soon.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby thunderjet » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:47 pm

CDW6212R wrote:Thanks, and we need to save as many of those as we can.

Oh, did you by chance notice if the wiring was still there, and unhurt?

The early Explorer 302 computer and wiring harness are the best swap parts to start with, for OBDII projects. Get those any time you can. That's the versions without the EGR pipe in the header, the internal EGR, with a flat topped EGR intake elbow. I have one set of those, and they are going into my Mark VII soon.


I checked and the upper intake was $34.99+$4.99 core and the lower was $34.99+$4.99 core. So $40 each, $80 for the set. A hell of a lot cheaper than eBay. It only took me two hours to pull as well. Iron heads without cams (OHV heads) are $39.99+4.99 core. So I could go back and get a pair of GT40s or GT40Ps for $90. But then I think about springs, seals, retainers, and keepers which are $150 http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/ite ... pgrade-Kit and a valve job/clean up which is probably about ~$150 and presto I've got $400 GT40 heads. I wish I kept those 7000 mile GT40Ps and the other spare internal EGR GT40 intake I had. Oh well I got $500 for all that stuff locally :D .

The wiring harness in the Explorer was trashed. It had some sort of fire that burned most of it from the injectors forward to the cam sensor and coil packs.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby Bowmanator » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:10 pm

There's also this option for springs, http://www.alexsparts.com/sb-ford-gt40p ... ers-locks/
I haven't tried them yet but i was planning on it.
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Re: intake, valve cover factory colors

Postby thunderjet » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:44 am

Bowmanator wrote:There's also this option for springs, http://www.alexsparts.com/sb-ford-gt40p ... ers-locks/
I haven't tried them yet but i was planning on it.


Once you add the cost of the valve shims and seals it's the same as the Trick Flow kit.
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